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Vincentvangervenoei at 11:46, 2 April 2012

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	L 112.10: ''ǧan-os-''; L. 102.2 ''odñ-oos-''; St. 4.12 ''kork-a et-''		L 112.10: ''ǧan-os-''; L. 102.2 ''odñ-oos-''; St. 4.12 ''kork-a et-'';

	~~Earlier~~, ungrammaticalized form:		Compare also St. 15.7 ''aul-os-iǧ[a]'' with an "earlier", ungrammaticalized form:

	L 105.13: ''auou-l os-k eir-ilgille''. Note that the verb form ''os-k'' ends directly in the accusative case. This suggests that the so-called [[Participle\|participle]]/verbid form in ''-l'' behaves exactly like any other noun with determiner ''-l'', otherwise we would expect *''os-il-k'', an unattested form, which is however assumed by Browne.		L 105.13: ''auou-l os-k eir-ilgille''. Note that the verb form ''os-k'' ends directly in the accusative case. This suggests that the so-called [[Participle\|participle]]/verbid form in ''-l'' behaves exactly like any other noun with determiner ''-l'', otherwise we would expect *''os-il-k'', an unattested form, which is however assumed by Browne.

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	L 105.13: ''auou-l os-k eir-ilgille''. Note that the verb form ''os-k'' ends directly in the accusative case. This suggests that the so-called participle/verbid form in ''-l'' behaves exactly like any other noun with determiner ''-l'', otherwise we would expect *''os-il-k'', an unattested form, which is however assumed by Browne.		L 105.13: ''auou-l os-k eir-ilgille''. Note that the verb form ''os-k'' ends directly in the accusative case. This suggests that the so-called [[Participle\|participle]]/verbid form in ''-l'' behaves exactly like any other noun with determiner ''-l'', otherwise we would expect *''os-il-k'', an unattested form, which is however assumed by Browne.

Vincentvangervenoei at 09:24, 2 April 2012

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	As already noted by Bechhaus-Gerst, inter alia, Old Nubian exhibits a host of grammaticalized verbs, that Browne sometimes lists as suffixes, sometimes as adjunctive forms:		As already noted by Bechhaus-Gerst, inter alia, Old Nubian exhibits a host of grammaticalized verbs, that Browne sometimes lists as suffixes, sometimes as adjunctive forms:


	'''Applicative/Benefactive''':		'''Applicative/Benefactive''':
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	St. 10.9: ''tidra tiǧ-ǧinia''; St. 5.6-7 ''pilligra deñ-ǧesō''		St. 10.9: ''tidra tiǧ-ǧinia''; St. 5.6-7 ''pilligra deñ-ǧesō''


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	L 105.13: ''auou-l os-k eir-ilgille''. Note that the verb form ''os-k'' ends directly in the accusative case. This suggests that the so-called participle/verbid form in ''-l'' behaves exactly like any other noun with determiner ''-l'', otherwise we would expect *''os-il-k'', an ~~attested~~ form, which is however assumed by Browne.		L 105.13: ''auou-l os-k eir-ilgille''. Note that the verb form ''os-k'' ends directly in the accusative case. This suggests that the so-called participle/verbid form in ''-l'' behaves exactly like any other noun with determiner ''-l'', otherwise we would expect *''os-il-k'', an unattested form, which is however assumed by Browne.

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	L 112.10: ''ǧan-os-''; L. 102.2 ''odñ-oos-''; St. 4.12 ''kork-a et-''		L 112.10: ''ǧan-os-''; L. 102.2 ''odñ-oos-''; St. 4.12 ''kork-a et-''

			Earlier, ungrammaticalized form:

			L 105.13: ''auou-l os-k eir-ilgille''. Note that the verb form ''os-k'' ends directly in the accusative case. This suggests that the so-called participle/verbid form in ''-l'' behaves exactly like any other noun with determiner ''-l'', otherwise we would expect *''os-il-k'', an attested form, which is however assumed by Browne.


	'''Perfect''':		'''Perfect''':

Vincentvangervenoei at 09:02, 2 April 2012

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	Note that for all suffixes, there are several possibilities to attach to the main verb: after predicative ''-a'', sometimes reduced to ''-ou'', or even without juncture vowel. There also seems to be a continuum in ON, effaced in modern variants, between independent verb forms and the beginnings of grammaticalized "suffix"-like behavior. Perhaps, a quantitative analysis might prove useful for the indication of relative dating of the texts (which is particularly difficult in ON), as it is assumed that "full" forms are usually older than grammaticalized forms, although this may also depend on level of speech.		Note that for all suffixes, there are several possibilities to attach to the main verb: after predicative ''-a'', sometimes reduced to ''-ou'', or even without juncture vowel. There also seems to be a continuum in ON, effaced in modern variants, between independent verb forms and the beginnings of grammaticalized "suffix"-like behavior. Perhaps, a quantitative analysis might prove useful for the indication of relative dating of the texts (which is particularly difficult in ON), as it is assumed that "full" forms are usually older than grammaticalized forms, although this may also depend on level of speech.

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	L 112.10: ''ǧan-os-''; L. 102.2 ''odñ-oos-''; St. 4.12 ''kork-a et-''		L 112.10: ''ǧan-os-''; L. 102.2 ''odñ-oos-''; St. 4.12 ''kork-a et-''

			'''Perfect''':

			L 106.6: ''kon-ko-''

	Note that for all suffixes, there are several possibilities to attach to the main verb: after predicative ''-a'', sometimes reduced to ''-ou'', or even without juncture vowel. There also seems to be a continuum in ON, effaced in modern variants, between independent verb forms and the beginnings of grammaticalized "suffix"-like behavior. Perhaps, a quantitative analysis might prove useful for the indication of relative dating of the texts (which is particularly difficult in ON), as it is assumed that "full" forms are usually older than grammaticalized forms, although this may also depend on level of speech.		Note that for all suffixes, there are several possibilities to attach to the main verb: after predicative ''-a'', sometimes reduced to ''-ou'', or even without juncture vowel. There also seems to be a continuum in ON, effaced in modern variants, between independent verb forms and the beginnings of grammaticalized "suffix"-like behavior. Perhaps, a quantitative analysis might prove useful for the indication of relative dating of the texts (which is particularly difficult in ON), as it is assumed that "full" forms are usually older than grammaticalized forms, although this may also depend on level of speech.

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As already noted by Bechhaus-Gerst, inter alia, Old Nubian exhibits a host of grammaticalized verbs, that Browne sometimes lists as suffixes, sometimes as adjunctive forms:

'''Applicative/Benefactive''':

''-den'' (give to 2/3sg/pl)
''-tir'' (give to 1sg/pl)

St. 10.9: ''tidra tiǧ-ǧinia''; St. 5.6-7 ''pilligra deñ-ǧesō''

'''Completive''':

L 112.10: ''ǧan-os-''; L. 102.2 ''odñ-oos-''; St. 4.12 ''kork-a et-''

Note that for all suffixes, there are several possibilities to attach to the main verb: after predicative ''-a'', sometimes reduced to ''-ou'', or even without juncture vowel. There also seems to be a continuum in ON, effaced in modern variants, between independent verb forms and the beginnings of grammaticalized "suffix"-like behavior. Perhaps, a quantitative analysis might prove useful for the indication of relative dating of the texts (which is particularly difficult in ON), as it is assumed that "full" forms are usually older than grammaticalized forms, although this may also depend on level of speech.